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Eb-Yamin's uncaste Kibedonad, Vabedonad, Kibedonad.

Introduction with Alan Eyre, thank you so much for being on our poetry program again.

I'm honored and surprised, frankly, to be invited back.

We got really good responses to our last poetry episode. So if you haven't listened to our last one,

we did Hayom's Rendi Didam, and Alan gave a whole introduction to his love of Persian poetry and himself

and all that. So love of myself. Yeah, love of himself. Love of personal and myself. He talked

about how much he loves himself and how poetry led him to that self-love.

It's very important.

So everyone go back and listen to that.

But Alan also on his Instagram post a lot about books that he's reading.

And he always reads these very doom and gloom climate books.

I guess they're not doom and gloom.

They're just reality.

And so I wrote him recently and said, how do you deal with this and do you not just feel

a sense of despair?

And he messaged me back with this poem.

And I said, let's talk about this poem.

So that's where this is coming from.

So just as a brief intro, tell me, so you said in your message that you were obsessed with Iran and now you've transferred that obsession to climate. So can you talk a little bit about that and what you've been doing with this obsession? You know, I'm not a psychologist, but yeah, it really was. I mean, pretty much from when I started learning Persian, that I think we talked a little about last time, until, like, 2016, it's all I did. You know, books, this, all my free time. It really loved it. And I still do. But starting around 2015, 2016, I started reading more, not about climate. Actually, I was reading a great book by a guy called Colin Tudge, the time before history.

And he talked about how, you know, we talk about history, but actually ancient man, what we call

ancient man, you know, people in ancient Rome, that's relatively recent in the sense that we've been around for like 300,000 years.

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