PODCAST: The Islamic State's War in Iraq and Syria

War on the Rocks

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4.6 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2015

⏱️ 56 minutes

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This is the podcast in which War on the Rocks fixes the Middle East...ok, we kid, but it is a fascinating conversation with some of the most astute and informed U.S. experts on Iraq and the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). Have a listen! We were joined by: J.M. Berger, author of the new book, ISIS: State of Terror (along with Jessica Stern) and a nonresident fellow in the Project on U.S. Relations with the Islamic World at the Brookings Institution. William McCants, author of the forthcoming book, ISIS Apocalypse, a fellow in the Center for Middle East Policy and director of the Project on U.S. Relations with the Islamic World at the Brookings Institution. Denise Natali, a senior research fellow at the Institute for National Strategic Studies at the National Defense University (her views do not necessarily represent those of the U.S. government). Douglas Ollivant, a senior national security fellow with the New America Foundation and a managing partner and the Senior Vice President of Mantid International. Ryan Evans, editor-in-chief of War on the Rocks, moderated with Lagavulin 16 neat in hand.

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0:00.0	Here we are for another edition of the War on the Rocks podcast series. I'm Ryan Evans and I got a great group
0:06.6	Great group here. First off we have J.M. Berger of Brookings Institution.
0:11.4	J.M. is the author of a really exciting new book called ISIS State of Terror along with
0:16.8	Jessica Stern.
0:18.1	And that's out now and you should definitely buy it today. Next we have, we have, yeah, he made me say that.
0:27.0	Will McCants of the Brookings Institution.
0:30.0	Will is actually the author of a book that's not out yet but it's about to come out.
0:33.8	It's probably got the coolest title of any ISIS book that I've heard of and it's called ISIS
0:40.8	Apocalypse.
0:41.8	Yeah, it's scary.
0:44.0	And now we have Doug Oliver.
0:46.0	He's a partner at Mante International,
0:48.0	and he's a fellow at the New America Foundation.
0:51.0	And we have Denise Natale, who's here
0:55.0	from the National Defense Universities Institute
0:57.0	for National Strategic Studies.
0:58.2	I always forget the acronym.
1:00.4	And a really noted scholar on Middle East affairs particularly Iraq and the Kurds and
1:07.0	that very complex history there. We also have two shadow guests who shall not be named in the long tradition of war on the rock's
1:14.8	shadow guests. They were just sort of sitting here observing because our podcasts are that
1:19.2	interesting. We're going to talk about the Islamic State in Iraq in the Levant or the Islamic State in Iraq
1:26.7	and al-Sham or whatever acronym you want to use.
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