Podcast special: THIS WAR IS NOT REAL
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 24 March 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
The Matts explore how French philosopher Jean Baudrillard was right about the nature of warfare in the 21st century - especially when applied to the unprecedented chaos unfolding in the Middle East. It is, we hope, a thought-provoking conversation which tries to make some sense of what seems utterly senseless. Also - the Matts react to the bombing of Jewish ambulances in North London and ask: why is nobody stating categorically that this is terrorism? Finally, they ask you, dear listener, to do something you almost certainly hadn’t been planning on doing - watch GB News. Why? Tune in and find out! Enjoy!
Produced by Matt Withers
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| 0:00.0 | For him, it's just pushing the bed red buttons and pulling the levers on his desk, Mr Toad, and then seeing what happens. |
| 0:09.0 | All we're seeing now, I think, is a bunch of tactics without strategy, and that is super dangerous. |
| 0:18.0 | There are very few things upon which he is consistent, but he has had this |
| 0:24.3 | obsession with Iran since 1980 when he first said which had sent troops in long before he was |
| 0:31.1 | even thinking of being a politician. Hello and happy Tuesday. Is it happy Tuesday? |
| 0:39.3 | Well, it's definitely Tuesday. |
| 0:41.2 | It's Tuesday, happy Tuesday, well. |
| 0:43.0 | We can say that with confidence. |
| 0:45.9 | What's going on, Matt? Tell me, because I haven't got it to... |
| 0:48.6 | Well, I was going to ask you, you're the boss. |
| 0:50.0 | I mean, I think we've just... |
| 0:52.3 | I don't know, you're a wise man. |
| 0:55.6 | Was that the shortest piece in the history of warfare? |
| 1:00.3 | Well, it's all I know for sure is that the stock markets and the oil futures and the |
| 1:06.8 | price of oil and everything is bouncing up and down like a yo-yo. |
| 1:10.4 | Somebody's benefiting from that. |
| 1:13.2 | 100%. |
| 1:13.8 | And I wonder who. |
| 1:15.9 | Now, would it be the most bizarre thing ever if somebody turned around and said, |
| 1:23.8 | well, actually Trump is orchestrating this kind of market upheaval. |
| 1:28.2 | I was reminded of Phil Tinline's book Iron Mountain. |
| 1:31.6 | Yes, yes, exactly. |
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