Podcast Exclusive: Ben Crowe
The Christian O’Connell Show
GOLD and iHeart Australia
4.7 • 823 Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Christian and the team kick off a big morning with world class mindset coach and storyteller Ben Crowe, the man behind Ash Barty, Steph Gilmore and other elite performers. Across an honest, funny and disarmingly deep chat, Ben unpacks what a mindset coach actually does, why we’re so distracted by things we can’t control, and how he helps people shift from “human doing” to human being. He explains the ancient but practical principles behind his new book and Mojo app, and why stories, not self help theory, are the most powerful way we learn and change.
From Ash Barty learning to separate her ranking from her self worth, to Andre Agassi and Tiger Woods, to hospital teams and students, Ben shares real examples of how reframing identity, worthiness and potential can transform performance and happiness. Christian also dives into Ben’s idea of our “natural play state”, the five feelings that define it, and how getting back to playful, carefree curiosity can help with everything from Grand Slam finals to launching a national radio show.
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| 0:00.0 | IHart Podcasts. You can hear more. Gold 104.3 podcast, playlist, and listen live on the free IHart app. |
| 0:09.2 | Got anything good? |
| 0:11.1 | Hey, this is the Christian O'Connell Show podcast. |
| 0:18.3 | My special guest this morning is the world's most in-demand mindset coach. |
| 0:24.5 | It is Ben Crow. Ben, welcome to the show. |
| 0:27.2 | Thank you, Christian. Thanks for having me. |
| 0:29.0 | You're someone I've got to know the last couple of years. |
| 0:32.5 | If a lot of people don't recognize the name, how would you describe what you do? I know I've read the book, |
| 0:39.3 | I know I don't like titles, and we'll get to that in a minute, but how would you describe, |
| 0:43.0 | what is a mindset coach? I guess I try and help people with their mindset on the field in a |
| 0:47.8 | professional sense to find confidence in their skills with belief in a personal sense, |
| 0:53.4 | to believe in their potential. |
| 0:55.0 | And find that balance between, I guess, confidence and happiness and achievement |
| 0:58.5 | with fulfillment. |
| 0:59.8 | We're so distracted today as human beings, focusing on all these things we can't control. |
| 1:04.6 | I'm wanting to control it creates emotional pressure or outcome pressure, right? |
| 1:07.2 | So I guess a mindset coach helps identify where the distractions are coming, |
| 1:10.8 | and they're different for all of us, right? Yeah. And try and find the freedom to compete, |
| 1:15.2 | have fun and play. And as human beings, I guess that's what we should all be doing, |
| 1:18.3 | whether an athlete or a student. And how do you get into this line of work? You know, |
| 1:22.9 | you're Australian. How did you even end up in America working with Mr. Nike, Phil Knight, shoe dog? |
| 1:29.0 | How did that happen? |
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