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🗓️ 5 October 2017
⏱️ 8 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome back to the podcast of Esna Science and Higher Education Policy. |
0:06.3 | This is podcast number eight. |
0:08.8 | And today we are here with Monsieur Martin Pigeon, who is a researcher and campaigner for the NGO Corporate Europe Observatory in Brussels. |
0:18.9 | When we are focusing on research funding, actually the third biggest EU budget after |
0:25.0 | agriculture and structural funds, we have a little headache here. |
0:30.0 | The current European Framework Program for Science, Research and High Education, FP8, |
0:36.8 | or as it has been named, Horizon 2020, runs since 2014 |
0:42.4 | and ends in 2020. This summer, a commission produced an interim evaluation of Horizon 2020 |
0:49.9 | for the European Parliament. The head of this commission, MEP Soledadreouise Kavison, |
0:56.6 | criticised that big corporations are grabbing too much of these public research funds. |
1:02.1 | Monsieur Pugéjean, how is that? |
1:04.1 | The detail of this comment, I think she is referring to the fact |
1:07.5 | that the Commission has kept complaining about the needs to introduce a consistent and transparent accounting method to evaluate big companies' contribution. |
1:16.6 | You might know that in particular in research, public-private partnerships, |
1:21.6 | this contribution is made in kind, whereas the EU is contributing actual money. |
1:26.6 | Basically, for example, if you take the EME, the Innovative Medicine Partnership, |
1:32.3 | so the total budget is 3 billion, but actually only 1.6 billion is actual money, |
1:40.3 | and it's EU money, it's public taxpayers' money. |
1:43.3 | The rest is an in-kind contribution of |
1:45.9 | industry. So this is very clear a declaration by companies that says that this is what it costs |
1:50.5 | them. But is there any way to double check whether this is true or not? That's an open question, |
1:56.5 | and I understand that the Commission still hasn't solved this problem. |
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