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Psychedelic Salon

Podcast 707 – After the Escaton

Psychedelic Salon

Lorenzo Hagerty

Personal Journals, Science, Society & Culture, Natural Sciences, Philosophy

4.8567 Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2024

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: In this recording, Terence McKenna discusses his wave theory, which he claims predicts every moment up until December 21, 2012. He addresses the common question of what happens after this date, suggesting a series of increasingly strange scenarios. A less strange scenario he proposes involves a sudden shift in human behavior where everyone begins to act appropriately, inspired by Buddhist and Taoist principles. McKenna humorously imagines that this might lead people to take off their clothes and go outside, although he admits he can't predict what would happen beyond that point. Among other things, he says, "I think, in a sense, technology is the the alchemical journey toward the condensation of the soul, and the union of spirit and matter in some kind of hyper-object."

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0:00.0

Three-dimensional transforming musical linguistic objects.

0:07.0

Helvetians.

0:14.0

Greetings from Cyberdelic Space.

0:19.0

This is Lorenzo and I'm your host here in the psychedelic salon.

0:24.0

And today, once again, we delve into the visionary mind of Terrence McKenna,

0:29.7

who was not only a pioneering and theobotanist.

0:32.6

He was also a mystic and philosopher.

0:35.4

Now, this interesting talk brings to an end, a workshop where Terence was exploring what

0:40.3

may happen at the end of the time wave.

0:43.0

As he notes, his idea predicts every moment up until December 21st, 2012.

0:48.8

And now, finally, he tackles the intriguing question of what happens after this date.

0:55.2

And in doing so, he presents several scenarios, ranging from the plausible to the profoundly weird.

1:02.7

Actually, this is a good example of Terrence's imaginative vision of a future, where he humorously contemplates a world where everyone begins to behave appropriately,

1:13.0

which to his mind includes taking off all of our clothes and going out into nature, which

1:18.6

sounds good unless nature is extremely cold or hot at the time, or any of the other things

1:23.7

it does to encourage us to wear clothing.

1:26.5

But anyhow, that was his idea, and

1:29.2

this is as good as any, I guess. Now, this is the last session of this October 1995 workshop at the

1:36.2

Eselin Institute at Big Sur, California. And hopefully you'll find one or two new ideas here that

1:42.5

hadn't crossed your mind before.

1:45.0

Now, here's Terrence.

1:47.0

The funny thing is, here I have this wave.

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