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Psychedelic Salon

Podcast 472 – “The Timewave & The Watkins Objection”

Psychedelic Salon

Lorenzo Hagerty

Science, Philosophy, Natural Sciences, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.8568 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2015

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: [NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.] “An interesting thing about drugs is often, when a new drug is discovered, it takes a long time to figure out how do you do it.” “In 1948, television was introduced, and millions and millions of people lead larval, low-awareness, warehoused lives mainlining an electronic drug straight into their brains.” “I would argue that it's almost better to do heroin than to watch TV. At least when you're doing heroin you're responsible for your own reveries and thought processes. When you're mainlining TV what is it but endless messages to fetishize products?” “If the world is made of language, then you can hack it in the sense that you can hack code.” “My idea of enlightenment is when ego and Tao are fused, and Tao is perceived as ego. Then everything happens with complete appropriateness.” “I think of the mainland as Blade Runner Land.” “Anything which must be understood by millions of people is so hopelessly divorced from how it is that it becomes a form of fiction.” “I think what we have to do is convince people that matter is tacky.” Download MP3 PCs – Right click, select option Macs – Ctrl-Click, select option Hyperborea - Terence McKenna's Website Autopsy for a Mathematical Hallucination? by Matthew Watkins Introduction by Terence McKenna 2012 and the "Watkins Objection" to Terence McKenna's "Timewave Theory" . . . by Matthew Watkins Terence McKenna's Reading List

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0:00.0

Greetings from

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musical

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linguistic art chips

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and I'll be a chance

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Greetings from Cyberdelic Space

0:20.0

This is Lorenzo and I'm your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

0:23.6

And I hope that you find today's talk by Terence McKenna as interesting as I have.

0:29.6

What I'm about to play for you is the next part of a workshop that he led at Eselin.

0:35.6

And in my podcast, 463, I played the first part of this workshop,

0:40.9

and the next part you heard in my podcast number 469.

0:45.1

I'm not sure which one of those it was in,

0:48.0

but you may recall that Terence said that a week or so earlier

0:51.8

he had been at an Entheobotany conference in Palenque, Mexico,

0:56.3

and that it was during this time in Mexico that his major headaches first began to appear.

1:02.7

And now today we're going to learn about, well, something else that took place during this time in Mexico.

1:09.0

I'm not saying that these two things are related, only coincidental.

1:13.4

Sort of amazingly coincidental, in my opinion, though.

1:17.3

Normally, I'd save my commentary for after we listened to today's talk,

1:22.3

but I'm going to change gears a bit today and have part of my say right now

1:26.8

so that you can better grok what

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I happen to think is one of the more fascinating times for Terrence, times to be conducting a

1:34.5

workshop that is and talking about his time wave hypothesis. And please note that, well, at least

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