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Psychedelic Salon

Podcast 450 – “The Primacy of Direct Experience”

Psychedelic Salon

Lorenzo Hagerty

Personal Journals, Science, Society & Culture, Natural Sciences, Philosophy

4.8567 Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2015

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: [NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.] “These psychedelics, which in the Sixties and Fifties were simply called consciousness expanding drugs, a good old phenomenological description, if there is an iota of possibility that they expand consciousness then we must put out attention on this area. Because it is the absence of consciousness that is making our situation so very uncomfortable.” “Where spiritual advancement is discussed, I want psychedelics to be discussed. Where transformative social visions are put forth, I want psychedelics to be part of the agenda.” “The historical enterprise is an effort to turn the human body inside out so that the soul becomes visible, and the body becomes a process that you can command in the imagination.” Download MP3 PCs – Right click, select option Macs – Ctrl-Click, select option

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0:00.0

Greetings from

0:02.0

Greetings from Cyberdelic Space

0:06.0

This is Lorenzo and I'm your host here in the psychedelic salon.

0:23.5

And today we're going to, at long last, listen to the final segment of a June 1994

0:31.0

workshop that Terence McKenna led.

0:34.4

And while you and I have heard Terrence wax eloquent about psychedelic experiences on many occasions,

0:40.4

I think that you're nonetheless really going to enjoy this talk.

0:44.3

For example, he points out the obvious fact that a mushroom trip is simply a relationship between a human and a plant,

0:51.6

which, of course, is a different order of being.

0:54.8

But then he goes on to postulate that this relationship actually empowers or reveals yet another order of being human.

1:03.5

It's those little flights of fancy that caused me to pause my MP3 player from time to time and think about what he says.

1:10.7

And I think you'll find a number of such points in this interesting talk.

1:14.4

So let's get started.

1:17.3

As old Bush pilots say, we're turning final here.

1:23.1

The thing last night, as I said at the beginning, but it may have been lost in the shuffle,

1:28.9

is a kind of indulgence to me because it's a completely original idea.

1:34.4

And like all original ideas, it runs a strong risk of being just simply wrong.

1:42.5

But because what it seeks to do is so grandiose

1:46.7

and because it seems to do it to some degree

1:50.3

and then that of course falls upon the eye of the beholder

1:54.5

to assess, it seems worth communicating

1:58.7

as an example.

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