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Psychedelic Salon

Podcast 449 – “McKenna’s Speculations About 2012”

Psychedelic Salon

Lorenzo Hagerty

Personal Journals, Science, Society & Culture, Natural Sciences, Philosophy

4.8567 Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2015

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: In this continuation of a Terence McKenna workshop from June 1994, he does brief riffs about Joyce's “Finnegan's Wake” and Orwell's “1984”. He then continues with some speculations about what he thought 2012 would bring. Step 1, he speculated, would be that everyone in the world would go outdoors and get naked. And from there he takes off on a wild flight of mind that you have to hear for yourself to truly appreciate his relationship (at that time) to a potential 2012 event. Ultimately he reaches a point where he speculates about why it was (and still is) necessary for a species like us humans to evolve. Download MP3 PCs – Right click, select option Macs – Ctrl-Click, select option

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0:00.0

Greetings from

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Greetings from Cyberdelic Space

0:19.8

This is Lorenzo and I'm your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

0:24.1

And today we're going to rejoin Terrence McKenna and listen to a bit more of his June 1994 workshop,

0:31.6

which also includes his take on the state of the world back then, and, well, to me, it sounds almost as if it was given

0:38.0

last night. Actually, I'd kind of forgotten how prophetic and, well, almost religious Terrence

0:44.4

could get when he was deep in the thrall of his visions of 2012. And since I didn't come into

0:50.5

contact with Terrence and his work myself until, well, about five years after this talk was given,

0:56.3

my remembrance of him doesn't include such wild speculations as we're going to hear in this talk.

1:01.6

In other words, and this is only my personal impression, but some of the scholarship that's currently underway might confirm or deny this,

1:10.2

but it's my impression that as the

1:12.5

2012 date became closer, Terence began to temper some of his more wild speculations, like

1:18.9

the ones that we're about to hear today. But his payoff really comes when he challenges us

1:24.8

with the question, why do I believe this?

1:29.3

And when you hear him say that in a few minutes, you may agree with me that the only reason

1:35.2

I can see that any of us really believe those wild 2012 speculations that he was coming

1:40.4

out with back in the 90s was because we wanted to believe them.

1:45.6

Which, if you think about it, well, it actually comes kind of close to a religious belief.

1:51.3

Now, when he gets to the point where he says that what is accelerating right now is our technology,

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