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Drunk Ex-Pastors

Podcast #292: Molly, Mushrooms, and MDMA: A Chat with Bruce Sanguin

Drunk Ex-Pastors

Christian Kingery

Religion & Spirituality, Comedy

4.7566 Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2020

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

Episode #292 of Drunk Ex-Pastors features our interview with former pastor and current psychedelics apologist Bruce Sanguin. We discuss the healing effects of mushrooms, psilocybin, and LSD, as well as the well-known propaganda and War-on-Drugs rhetoric surrounding these medicines (as Sanguin calls them). Bruce opens up about his own childhood trauma and explains how his guided therapy sessions using psychedelics have brought about true health and healing.

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0:00.0

What do you want?

0:23.4

Back to where we were right before we started recording. What I want us to not be so cold? What do you want? I want to be not so cold. Yeah, I forgot to turn the heater on here today, and it's 58 degrees in here, which seems like we should be able to handle that, no problem. We would have killed for 58 degrees a year ago. Yeah, 58 would have been like, balmy, you know. It's only 12 degrees under what it normally is.

0:24.3

Swelltering in ago. Yeah, 58 would have been like, balmy. Yeah. You know. It's only 12 degrees under what it normally is in here. Yeah. Yeah. Usually the morning of or the night before I come down and turn on that heater, or just turn up the thermostat. And then by now it's 71, 72 degrees. Yeah. But it's 58th at the moment.

0:37.5

I think you should just have it heated all the time.

0:39.8

Just to avoid mistakes like this, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's just money. It's just money, bro. This, like we were just talking about, you're doing fine. The funny thing is this wall plate heater, I'm pretty sure if I left it on full, like full for the entire time, I'm pretty sure it's like, it's either $15 or $30. That's how much energy we use, a month. Oh, then that's worth it to me. 30 to 30 of your dollars is worth my comfort. The problem is I have three of these in my house. So that's like possibly up to $90 a month, you know. And then I have other space heaters. And then I have the multi-splits. And I have like, you know, all of a sudden, my electric bill is $350 a month. Yeah. You know. Fine. I'll be cold. That's just for a little bit today. So we were talking about, we were talking about boondocking.

1:32.1

That's where you take, in my mind, it's where you take a really cool trailer like an airstream and you go out and you boom, you find, they have this government land that's

1:37.2

supposed to be like these amazing views and there's nothing there.

1:42.1

There's no electricity.

1:43.5

There's no water. You know, you're. I'm waiting for the appeal. You can go park in these, I think we've talked about it for. You can go park in these areas for up to 14 days for free, so you don't pay anything. And then you can move to another one and park there. And it's called boondocking. And do you have like a generator? How do you have? Well, yeah. I mean, a lot of trailers now have solar on them or you have a generator or your,

2:07.7

your electric is run by propane or something like that. Obviously, as time march is on, solar is going to be the big thing, right? You can store, you'll have a battery, you have a Tesla battery in your trailer that'll

2:21.8

store energy from the sun, and then, you know, you'll get more energy when the sunshine.

2:28.8

Trump's going to get reelected.

2:30.6

Any chance at some sort of Green New Deal level effort on humanity's part to stop the climate apocalypse will be thwarted.

2:40.7

If the private sector like Elon Musk does it, then the government will just step in to try to stop them or like prohibitively tax the solar panels.

2:49.9

So I'm talking to Jason about this and he's like, I don't see the appeal of just like sitting out in a field like a trailer park. I'm like, dude, it's not a trailer park and it's not just a field. And I'm like, plus you meet people and you become friends with people and you make a community. Jason's just rolling his eyes like, it sounds like the worst thing ever. And so I was like, was like what do you want what do you want I want to live I want to live at a house that's like

3:12.8

attached to the ground and and like somewhere cool that I like because it's like even if

3:20.3

you find somewhere cool you like you got to move every two weeks you get to. You get to see new places all the time. You get to experience the world. But the world, no, you get to experience trailer parks in America. They're not trailer parks. All the, and all the different spaces you go to are the same as the one you left behind. No, they're not. The only trailer I'd want to live in is, remember Lethal Weapon? Mel Gibson's trailer that he lived in that was like parked right on a beach. So unrealistic. I know, right? But they have those places. They have places where you can boondock and you're overlooking the ocean. They have places where you're looking at, you know, some Yosemite or El Capitan or whatever, and you can boondock there and see

3:58.2

these amazing views.

3:59.6

And there's no streetlights or traffic noise or...

4:04.6

Do you tow a car?

4:05.6

Planes.

4:07.3

Well, you know, if an airstream, you tow it with a truck or something.

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