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🗓️ 7 May 2025
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Keir Starmer wants to be celebrating its trade deal with India, worth 5 billion pounds to the British economy...but Kemi Badenoch instead presses him over cuts to the winter fuel allowance and energy bills.
Hugo Rifkind unpacks the exchanges from the House of Commons with Tim Shipman and comedian Ahir Shah. Plus, we wave Lara Spirit off to Washington.
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0:00.0 | PMQ's Unpacked on Times Radio, unpacking the politics and cutting through the crossfire. |
0:07.0 | Yes, time for PMQ's unpacked. And with me in the studio are the Sunday Times' Tim Shipman. |
0:12.1 | Hello, Tim. Hello. How are you? All very well. You're very excited. |
0:15.5 | Well, I mean, you know, it's the possibility of another good ding-dong if Kemi Badernock does what I expect her to do. |
0:22.3 | But what I expected to do is always wrong. |
0:25.5 | What do you expect to say? |
0:26.3 | Well, I mean, she's getting very hot under the colour about this Indian trade deal. |
0:29.5 | And having spent weeks and weeks condemning national insurance being slapped on British firms, |
0:35.5 | I'd have thought she'd want to make a song and dance out of it |
0:37.5 | being taken away from Indian workers coming here. |
0:40.2 | So you've got a wonderful sort of combination for the Tories |
0:43.3 | of immigration and economics. |
0:45.8 | And that seems like an open goal to me. |
0:48.1 | But I believe, seven days ago, |
0:51.2 | Kemi Beidonov presented with an open goal. |
0:53.3 | What happens in that situation? |
0:55.0 | We're also joined by the comedian Aheeshah. |
0:57.0 | Hello. |
0:57.4 | Hello. Good afternoon. |
0:58.5 | How are you? |
0:59.2 | Very well, thank you. |
0:59.9 | I've been out of the country for about five weeks. |
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