PNQ's Unpacked on Times Radio, unpacking the politics and cutting through the crossfire.

And I'm joined by Patrick McGuire, Times Radio's senior political correspondent. Hello Patrick.

Good afternoon, Hugo. Looking very well groomed. Heck, aren't I see?

No, I just, I think I just combed it today.

Well, it suits you, sir.

Ah, thank you.

And also by the comedian Jeff Norcott. Hello, Jeff.

Hello.

We must stop meeting like this.

Yeah, I comb my hair.

I've deodorised.

I've done everything.

You're quite a well-presented man, I've noticed.

I think I'm the last man in Britain who still uses hair gel.

Right, yeah.

Keeping that industry goes.

One of those things. Actual gel, the kind of sort of glowing, tubber. Why'd you buy it?

Well, much fewer places than once upon a time.

It's a real age marker when you see a Jen Zeddy go,

do you have hair gel?

And they go, no.

It's a value judgment.

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