PMQs: Does Starmer Have the Baubles?
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
4.1 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 17 December 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
In the final PMQs of the year, Kemi Badenoch challenges Keir Starmer on growth, taxes and claims he doesn’t have the “baubles” to stop the doctors’ strike. Starmer hits back, arguing that Badenoch’s Christmas wish list would freeze the minimum wage...
Hugo Rifkind unpacks the Commons exchanges with Josh Glancy, Stefan Boscia and Ahir Shah.
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| 0:00.0 | PMQ's unpacked on Times Radio. Unpacking the politics and cutting through the crossfire. |
| 0:07.3 | Yeah, it's the final PMQs of 2025, a chance for Kirstama to send his troops home with a spring in their step, or quite possibly just to sharpen their knives against him. |
| 0:16.3 | And joining me to unpack the action, I have the dream team of Sunday Times' associate editor and columnist Josh Glancy. Hello, Josh. Hello. Hello, thanks for being with us. And the comedian Ahishah. Hello, |
| 0:24.5 | a here. Hello, good afternoon. How are you? Yes, very well. Thank you. It's lovely to be here |
| 0:27.9 | for the last one of the year. Have you watched PMQs since you were last here? I watched PMQs |
| 0:33.5 | religiously and weekly think I'm a stop and I never do when you say you watch it |
| 0:42.9 | religiously do you mean just while praying no while well well self-flagellating |
| 0:47.4 | actually um Josh your column at the weekend was about the rampant speculation within |
| 0:52.9 | labour at the moment leadership speculation |
| 0:54.5 | uh do you think kemi baynock's going to do that she kind of did that a couple of weeks ago but |
| 0:58.7 | she might do it again i suppose yeah i think it's good territory for her because it just it |
| 1:03.0 | gives a sense of chaos and instability and weakness that she's just looking to prod at and prod out and |
| 1:09.3 | prod out and you know it's only really a sort of winning theme for her. So I suspect she will. And also I think she's, there's a hint of the sort of a slight twinkle of malice in Kemi Bednox's eye in the last few weeks. That's exactly right. Yeah. And I think she's quite enjoying a stuff. Just a flicker of, you might call it bullying or you might just call it swagger. But, so I think she's quite enjoying a sort of a flicker of, you might call it bullying or you might just call it swagger. But so I think she's quite enjoying, alluding it over Starma as he struggles with his own party. She is quite good at finding the thing that he least wants to talk about and making him talk about it. Ahear, have you noticed that, that chemi change recently? It's been an extraordinary change. |
| 1:44.9 | Yeah, it's been very, very noticeable over the last few weeks and months. |
| 1:49.6 | And, yeah, as you said, it's the newly energized springing the step. |
| 1:53.3 | And, yeah, actually feeling like she's enjoying it. |
| 1:56.9 | Now, I mean, when a comedian suddenly gets better, what's everybody thinking? Well, I mean, I'm still waiting for that. That was a good joke. But no, when a comedian suddenly gets better, people think what? I mean, people think new writers, rather? They don't think, they don't think, oh, you've just been practicing, you've reconceptualized the nature of nature of yourself or do they something uh i'll go back a bit to when i was uh sort of starting out uh and everything |
| 2:23.6 | and you you would see occasionally people just working out who they were supposed to be on stage |
| 2:29.3 | uh and this is when you're doing like the open mics and you're seeing these people like pretty |
| 2:33.0 | frequently and all of a sudden you'll see the guy on Friday he saw on Monday and he's just |
| 2:38.6 | worked out what he is up there and you think that's what's happened here that could make sense |
| 2:43.6 | uh I might not go that far let's see what happens in there yeah I mean I mean I will notice I do |
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