Before you guys broke 40 million bucks in ARR, you're over 100 million now today, right?

I can't comment on revenue.

Those are public.

That 100 million number you guys put out in press release, I believe.

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Hey folks, my guest today is Steve Hartert.

He's the vice president of enterprise operations at Jotform with responsibilities that include

marketing, brand, and corporate partnerships.

Before, Jot, for me, as president at Hartton and Associates, a marketing consultancy that work with B2B

and B2C SaaS companies. He's got more than 30 years of experience in the space with companies

like the Walt Disney Company Ministry of Transport in Australia and Blue Cross CA.

All right, jotform.com. Steve, you're ready to take us to the top?

Let's go for it.

Now, just as you'll understand the origin story here, you were not an original co-founder,

right?

How did you get involved?

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