Hello and welcome to the Slow Home Podcast.

This is episode number 119.

And I'm pleased to say that Ben is back.

Good day, everyone.

He's a wave at the microphone.

Sort of did a little salute.

Well, I salute you for returning to the Pog past.

Pleasure to be here.

Good.

Thank you. Pog past. Pleasure to be here. Good. So this is our second full week of the play experiment for November.

And I'm just going to put it right out there and say that I have actually struggled a little bit.

I was just about to say this is the easiest thing we've ever had to do. whole year. I know. For you, it has been, yeah. You're a more playful person. Okay, so why has

it been, why have you struggled? Uh, I think I'm putting too much pressure on myself as to what

play looks like. I think I've definitely shifted my mindset to be more playful and more light, which

is really what we're asking people to do.

But still, in my head, I'm like, oh, is that playful enough?

Of course it is.

But yeah, I've kind of been chastising myself that I'm not being more playful.

Like I look at you, and I said this last week, you're far more playful, particularly with the kids than I am.

And I've always felt a bit bad about that.

And I think I've probably just pressurized myself too much the past week to do it bigger or do it better.

But then when I sit down and write out the different things that I've done every day

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