Well, hello and welcome to the Slow Home Podcast. This is episode number 118 and I am flying

solo this morning. Ben is, uh, he's at work and this intro had to be recorded, so it's just me.

I apologize because I feel like I'm not nearly as funny or interesting as Ben, but this is me. You've got me.

Today, I have a conversation with Mel Tuali, who is the coordinator of Fashion Revolution, Australia, New Zealand.

And this is another episode where I decided to go really deep on a specific issue.

So we had the fermenting episode last week with Jamie and then this week we're talking about

specifically ethical fashion, how to start shopping ethically, what it actually means, why we need

ethical fashion.

And I also talked to Mel about the... what it actually means, why we need ethical fashion.

And I also talk to Mel about the fashion revolution movement that she's a big part of,

why it was started.

And that goes back to the Rana Plaza collapse a couple of years ago.

But it's just, I don't know, I really loved this conversation, partly because

I'm just personally becoming far more interested in ethical fashion and I think the need

for it is becoming more and more evident to me, the more I research and start to understand

what fast fashion is doing to the world. But I also, I've always been conflicted because the more

you start researching, the more you realize that the system is completely broken and there

are a whole different range of reasons that you might want to start exploring ethical fashion.

It could be animal welfare, it could be, you know, fair

trade, it could be looking after the people who create the clothes, it could be organics,

it could be regenerative farming, all of those different things. And if we focus on, like,

if we pull out and look at the big picture, it becomes incredibly overwhelming and it looks like we can't

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