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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John along with Durinda Wilson, and you have found the

Busy Mom podcast. Welcome. I hope that wherever you are today that your laundry is done,

and your dishes are clean, at least in your dreams. Maybe you've got something going in

your crock pot. Right, now's a good time, right? The podcast airs in the morning. Now's a

good time to put something in your crock pot. That's right. We're a huge fan of crock

pots here at the Busy Mom. Because I don't know how people survive without them. We are

going to continue today our discussion about child training and about really discipline

and loving your kids from toddlerhood and infancy all the way up through adulthood. And

before we get started, I want to just say that this podcast is sponsored. Our sponsor this

time is Zondervin. And I have been reading with my kids a book, a new book by Lee Strobel

called The Case for Grace for Kids. Case for Grace for Kids is basically a book about love and

forgiveness. It's based on his book about forgiveness and it's been adopted for kids. And it's wonderful.

I have been reading this book with my kids now for about a couple of weeks and just trying to read

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