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The Beet: A Podcast For Plant Lovers

Plant This, Not That with Elise Howard | The Beet

The Beet: A Podcast For Plant Lovers

Epic Gardening

Home & Garden, Education, Leisure, How To

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Beet, Jacques chats with Elise Howard, author of Plant This, Not That, about why native plants truly matter. They dig into how invasive species disrupt ecosystems, and how to phase them out of your garden gradually. Along the way, they outline how to grow a thriving, abundant native garden at home, and make the case for letting the bugs snack on your plants for maximum ecosystem support. Connect with Elise Howard: Elise has been digging in the dirt since childhood, growing gardens everywhere from Virginia to Maine, from window boxes to coastal landscapes. Her passion for native plants took root more than fifteen years ago while volunteering in New York City’s Riverside Park. She’s now a literary agent after a long career in children’s publishing. Elise lives and gardens with her family in New York City and Western Massachusetts, where she continues to cultivate both plants and ideas. Find more from Elise at her publisher’s site: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/contributor/elise-howard/ Find Elise on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/elisehoward.bsky.social Support The Beet: → Shop: https://growepic.co/shop → Seeds: https://growepic.co/botanicalinterests Learn More: → All Our Channels: https://growepic.co/youtube → Blog: https://growepic.co/blog → Podcast: https://growepic.co/podcasts → Discord: https://growepic.co/discord → Instagram: https://growepic.co/insta → TikTok: https://growepic.co/tiktok → Pinterest: https://growepic.co/pinterest → Twitter: https://growepic.co/twitter → Facebook: https://growepic.co/facebook → Facebook Group: https://growepic.co/fbgroup → Love our products? Become an Epic affiliate! https://growepic.co/3FjQXqV Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you plant abundantly and if you allow your native plants to go to seed and you encourage

0:57.0

reproduction through the seeds, volunteers, what you end up with is both a green mulch.

1:05.0

So instead of bringing mulch in every year, essentially the lower level plants are protecting the soil and those roots are

1:14.7

intertwining and supporting each other. And you've got such an abundance of plants that you can feed,

1:23.6

say, the leaf cutter bees and you can allow a certain amount of insect and bird and small mammal

1:31.7

feeding to go on without really noticing the impact of it.

1:38.7

Welcome to The Beat Podcast. I'm your host today, Jacques Lykov, and today we are talking about

1:43.2

native plants. Very important subject, something that, as you guysov, and today we are talking about native plants.

1:47.9

Very important subject, something that, as you guys know, I love to talk about.

1:53.7

I think every garden, even if you are a vegetable grower, should have some amount of native plants in your space.

1:56.7

And to make it easy today, we're actually talking with Elise Howard,

2:00.0

who just wrote a book called Plant This, Not That.

2:05.1

So obviously, I think that's signaling that you'll have a very good idea of what you can grow in your garden. So thank you for coming on today, Elise.

2:06.6

I'm very excited for this conversation.

2:08.6

Thank you.

2:09.6

It's a pleasure to be here.

2:10.6

Yeah.

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