Hi, I'm Joe Wiley. And I'm Soie Ball. And we're here to tell you about a brand new podcast, Digit.

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This is CBSI and the world.

I'm John Batser.

Bob Zimmerman, he keeps the website behind the black.

NASA has a lunar program.

It is constructed from the NASA SLS. It involves SpaceX. It was the last time Bob and I talked about it. Complicated. I don't know if it's gotten easier. Bob, a very good evening to you. The NASA

lunar program involving SpaceX into the mix of SLS.

Do they still work together?

Good evening, too.

Good evening, John.

Well, the problem isn't so much SpaceX.

It has to do with NASA, NASA management, the White House, Trump, his interim NASA administrator, Sean Duffy,

Congress, both the Senate and the House.

They're all basically delusional.

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