Hello and welcome to this bonus episode of Planet B, everything must change.

I'm Harpreet Corpall.

This episode features an extended edition of our interview with former journalist and

activist Julian Brave Noisecat.

You may have already heard clips of this interview in our episode on land and the Global

Green New Deal.

If you haven't, make sure you check that out on the Navara Media podcast feed.

Before we get started, a reminder that you can order a free copy of perspectives on a

Global Green New Deal, the illustrated book on which this podcast series is based, at

www.globalhyphengnd.com.

My name is Julian Brave Noisecat.

I am a journalist, a writer, a policy advocate and analyst.

I am currently the vice president of policy and strategy for a data for progress, which

is a think tank, and I am also working on a book about indigenous peoples in the United

States and Canada for Alfred A. Knopf, which is a division of Penguin Random House.

Julian, thank you so much for joining us today.

Last year, you wrote in a piece for Columbia Journalism Reviews that, to be indigenous

to North America, is to be part of a post-apocalyptic community and experience.

What do you mean by this?

And how do these types of experiences affect your journalism and your broader relationship

to the world?

So I am a citizen of the Canon Lake Bandskaskin, which is a first nation from what is now

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