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Bad Gays

Pietro Aretino

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

History

4.5 • 934 Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2019

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

A vituperative satirist who made kings tremble. Also, he wrote this: My fingers are but stragglers at the rear, Who go a-foraging for what they find; And they are not ashamed to lag behind, Since there’s no foe in front they need to fear. They’ve wandered through a tufted valley near. And you yourself have said they were most kind, And so, I know, my lady will not mind If they see other booty, nor think it queer.  And yet, it may be, you prefer the Lance; Then, let your stragglers reconnoiter, sweet, And guide him like a blind man to safe cover. He is no coward, since he takes a chance. Though he, my dear, has neither eyes nor feet; For a soldier always makes a perfect lover! ----more---- SOURCES: Aretino, Pietro. The school of whoredom. London: Hesperus, 2003.   ———. The secret life of nuns. London: Hesperus, 2004.   Burckhardt, Jacob. The Civilization of the Renaissance in Italy. Penguin Classics. London, England ; New York, N.Y., USA: Penguin Books, 1990.   Marrapodi, Michele, ed. Shakespeare and the Italian Renaissance: Appropriation, Transformation, Opposition. Anglo-Italian Renaissance Studies Series. Farnham, Surrey ; Burlington, VT: Ashgate, 2014.   Talvacchia, Bette. Taking Positions: On the Erotic in Renaissance Culture. Princeton, N.J: Princeton University Press, 1999. Our intro music is Arpeggia Colorix by Yann Terrien, downloaded from WFMU's Free Music Archive and distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Our outro music is by DJ Michaeloswell Graphicsdesigner.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Season 2 episode 3 of Bad Gays, a podcast about evil and complicated gay men in history.

0:23.1

I'm Ben Miller, a writer-researcher and member of the board of the Gay Museum in Berlin.

0:27.2

And I'm Hugh Lemmy, a writer and author.

0:29.4

Last week, we profiled Andrew Cunan, the dark heart at the center of evil twink energy.

0:34.2

Who are we going to talk about this week, Hugh?

0:36.4

Well, before we start, I'd just like to read

0:38.7

a little poem. It's called The Secret Sin. There is, they say, a certain occult sin that dwells in

0:46.3

monasteries where one brother doth sometimes turn for comfort to another. Tis a peccadillo that

0:51.9

they revel in. Then pardon me if my excuse is thin.

0:55.6

My lance is not.

0:56.9

Indeed, there is no other.

0:59.5

Can cut so wide a sway than so can smother an enemy in carnage.

1:04.4

If you would win the day with me.

1:06.5

But I must not forget, do you order victor and the spoils are yours.

1:09.8

Do with me as you will, and with my sword, that gallant shaft which even now I wet. But what is this? You've stolen all

1:16.2

my stores. What matter? Drop compunction by the board. That's a poem by today's subject.

1:24.1

If you visit the Sistine Chaplain in the Vatican, you'll find, as well as the famous ceiling,

1:28.3

an enormous fresco painting of The Last Judgment, also painted by Michelangelo, between 1533 and 1541.

1:35.3

It's based around Dante's Inferno and features over 300 different figures.

1:40.3

Below the triumphant Christ returning to earth at his left foot kneels this muscular

1:45.4

aging man who's bald with a large beard which is St. Bartholomew. In his right hand he holds

1:51.9

a flensing knife, a curved knife used by whalers to remove blubber and in his left hand he

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