Piers Gaveston

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

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🗓️ 19 November 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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The namesake of the secret dining society at Oxford where David Cameron may or may not have committed unspeakable acts with a pig. Perhaps you’ll have a clue to the themes of today’s episode when we tell you that the motto of the Piers Gaveston Society is "(Sane) non memini ne audisse unum alterum ita dilixisse" or, for those of us without a private school Latin education, "Truly, none remember hearing of a man enjoying another so much". ----more---- SOURCES: Hamilton, J. S. Piers Gaveston: Politics and Patronage in the Reign of Edward II. Detroit, Mich.: Wayne State University Press, 1988. Phillips, Seymour. Edward II. Yale English Monarchs. New Haven, Conn.: Yale University Press, 2010. Stewart, Alan. “Edward II and Same-Sex Desire” in: Early Modern English Drama: A Critical Companion, ed. Garrett A. Sullivan, Jr., Patrick Cheney and Andrew Hadfield. Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press, 2005. 82-95.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Season 2, Episode 9 of Bad Gays, a podcast about evil and complicated gay men in history.
0:23.8	I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher, and member of the board of the Gay Museum in Berlin.
0:28.2	And I'm Hugh Lemmy, an author and writer.
0:30.9	Last week, we talked about Stonewall Nation, a plan to build a gay colony in Alpine County, California that ran into a buzzsaw of its own
0:40.7	race blindness and insensitivity to the indigenous people of the area. Who are we talking about
0:46.0	this week, Hugh? Ben, do you remember back in 2015 there was a scandal in the British press
0:52.2	regarding the university exploits of the then
0:54.6	Prime Minister David Cameron.
0:56.4	Are you talking about the events memorably written up in your book of poetry confirmed
1:00.9	pigfucker?
1:02.2	Well, quite, yeah.
1:03.6	What happened was a biography of the Prime Minister was written by the Tory Party donor Lord
1:08.3	Ashcroft as a sort of revenge for Cameron refusing
1:10.9	to give the peer receipt on the cabinet in return for all the donations he'd been making.
1:16.6	And in it, he alleged that there was a photo that was said to exist of Cameron while he was a
1:20.5	student at Oxford University that showed him taking part in an initiation ritual for a secret
1:24.9	dining society at Oxford. And it was alleged that in the photo,
1:29.3	the Prime Minister had his genitals inside the mouth of a decapitated pig.
1:36.6	This led many in Britain, including myself, to start to refer to the Prime Minister of the United
1:41.5	Kingdom as, quote, unquote, a pigfucker.
1:45.2	Well, Matt, he certainly was.
1:47.8	I mean, whether or not that is literally true is almost an irrelevance, because for a country
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