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Hello, this is the Red Box podcast. I'm Matt Chewley coming up on today's episode. It's

the morning after the night before. It was the Times Radio Hustings, John Pina going toe-to-toe,

with Liz Truss and Richie Sinac. So on the podcast today, we'll bring you back up to date.

Maybe this is the whole thing, maybe only caught a couple of clips. Well, we bring you Pina Unpacked,

no PM keys, because we don't have a prime minister. So instead, Patrick McGuire joins me too.

Analysed, the key exchanges, what did we learn, particularly some movement it seems on from Liz Truss,

particularly it comes to tax and spend, which will be interesting, because that's another change

ahead. So that's coming up in just a moment on the podcast. Before that, they'll be kick off.

With our columnist panel, no attestops of dates, instead Robert Crampton's joined by Law of

Freeman. The columnist on Times Radio. Yes, no attestops since today. We don't know where,

last week we're sitting on Haybells. I don't know which year is this week. But what

of Crampton's here? Morning again. That's it. And we've also got Law of Freeman. Morning, Law.

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