Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics at Talbot School

of Theology here at Biola University.

I'm your co-host Sean McDowell, Professor of Christian Apologetics at Taubet School

of Theology, Biola University. We are here today with a very special friend.

Gina Pastori is with us.

You may recognize the last name Pastori from her late husband Frank,

who pitched in the major leagues with the Cincinnati Reds, Minnesota Twins,

and then hosted a radio show for a long time on KKLA.

And Gina has just come out with a brand new book called Picking Up My Shattered Pieces,

Subtitled Bouncing Back When Life Throws You a Curve Ball.

So Gina, there's a ton of backstory behind the book that I'm really anxious to get into and I think

our listeners will find really not only entertaining but also really helpful to them so thank you so much for

writing the book and for agreeing to come on and to talk to us about it.

Well it is such an honor to be on with you both and you both were very

special to Frank. He had you on the you were regulars on the Frank Pastory show

gosh six and a half years ago and just so cool to know that now

you're both hosting this podcast. I love it. Frank would be so proud of you.

Well I told Frank a long time ago that he taught me almost everything I know about

how to be on radio from how lousy I was when I first started out with him.

He was so patient. He was so patient he was so patient and he just he taught me how to do this and he said quit he said quit being an academic cut to the chase and explain it clearly

You know long before I ever did this, he invited me up and I came up and watched the show for three hours and he would pause in between commercials and go, hey, here's why he did this and I'd ask him questions and I still, to this day,

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