I'm Heather Dubrow.

I'm Dr. Terry Debrough.

And we're going to keep this between us.

Yeah.

No, no, no, not at all.

Not at all.

Because I was talking about this last time that I have the copper uglies.

So, all right, I've been hearing about peptides for so long.

And you and I and Rob Heisinga, we've talked to about it and lots of doctors and anti-aging

people, that peptides are kind of the Wild West.

So we've stayed away from them, but now I'm all in.

So will you sort of explain what peptides are and why they're the Wild Wild West?

So peptides are drugs. they're the Wild Wild West? So peptides are drugs.

They're small chains of amino acids that when put together and injected in either

intravenously, but usually subcutaneously, cause a physiologic change to the body, right?

Whether it's cosmetic or biological or cause a hormone to be secreted or make you feel

full, there's an action that they theoretically do.

The problem with peptides is that most of them are only, they're not FDA-proofed. They're not proof really for anything. And the data

really is only based on rat data. And rat data is not very translatable or interpolatable to humans.

Of course it is. That's why they do experiments on them, no? You can start. Yeah,

I mean, you know, in general, use rats to determine whether everybody dies. And then beyond that,

you can't really extrapolate much. I mean, if something works really well for a rat's skin,

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