Hello and welcome to another episode of App Stories.

Today's episode is brought to you by Better Touch Tool and Notion.

I'm John Voorhees and with me. Always and Forever is Federico Vitechi. Hello. Hi. How are you, John? I think Always and Forever is from a song, and I can't remember which one, but I'll have to figure that out. Sounds like a song from the 80s, maybe. Something like that. I think this is a more recent vintage, but well, I don't know.

We'll see.

We'll see.

How you doing, Federico?

I'm doing great.

We have planned an entire episode just about automation.

So that's always fun.

And I've been playing around with a lot of different automations lately.

So I'm very excited to do this.

Oh, that's good.

That's good.

Yeah, no, we did the, we did an

episode about shortcuts helper apps a couple of weeks ago. And, and we put a little, a little palette

cleanser in between with Mark German, which was a really great interview. I had a fun time talking to

Mark. But today, we're going to get down to talking about automations. And this is

not strictly a shortcuts episode because I think one of the things that I see as a theme for us and

for the App Store and the Mac platform in general, or the Apple platforms in general, is that

automation is really about a lot more than shortcuts. Shortcuts is an important component of it,

but there's a lot else of other things going on, and you and I have been experimenting with other

things, including some AI-related things as well as other apps and tools.

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