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My name is John Voorhees, and with me, as always, is Federico Vitici, plus a special guest who will be introducing in just a moment. Hey, Federico. Hello, John. How are you? I'm doing really well. I'm doing really well. I'm really excited today because we've got Mark German from Bloomberg with us. Mark is the managing editor and chief correspondent over there. Hey, Mark,

how you doing? I'm good. I'm good. Thank you guys for having me long-time listener, a long-time

reading of MacReader of MacStory. So good to finally get on the pod. So thanks again for having me.

Federico. We want to talk to Mark today. I think a little bit about his backstory. Because I got to

imagine Mark that,

I mean, you go back pretty far along with Federico in kind of the coverage of Apple. And I bet

there are a lot of people who listen to the show who aren't really aware of kind of your early days

and your origin story. Yeah, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Federico and I started in the Apple

news space around the same time. For me, it was the tail end of 2009, early 2010, and I worked,

you know, for those listening to this, you're probably very familiar with 9 to 5 Mac.

If you're newer to reading Apple News, what you may not know is I familiar with 9 to 5 Mac. If you're newer to reading Apple

news, what you may not know is I worked at 9 to 5 Mac between end of 09, early 2010 through,

I believe, 2016. And so I was there for a while, grew up with the guys there, and it was a

really fun time, not only in terms of covering the news,

but what the news was at the time and the community.

You started around the same time, right?

Yeah, I started in April 2009.

April 2009.

Yeah, and I mean, the App Store was like not even one year old at that point.

Right.

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