What is a day but a composite of all these small moments?

Let it out. Let it out. I'm really glad you're here.

I'm really glad you're here.

I heard recently that podcast listens as a

category are down a bunch and I have found my own listening habits have changed so much in the last

several weeks. And so I'm really happy that you're here. I'm happy that you're listening.

This episode's a little bit different. It's with one of my best friends. And I say this throughout

the episode, but my favorite compliment I've ever gotten for Let It Out for this podcast.

It's that it makes people feel less alone. And if this episode can do that for you, I think that will be a win.

So I hope you enjoy me talking to one of my best friends, Carolina. She's a chef. She's a mom. She's a really great friend and a very smart, wise, fascinating person.

And I think you're going to really love her.

Although this isn't really an interview, it's just a conversation between us, between friends,

but we talk about breakups and relationships and loneliness and friendship and phone calls and connection.

And it's a long one and it doesn't need any further ado so here's my conversation with carolina but first i want to tell

you a big announcement from this week so when i was 22 i randomly got very into self-help and

personal growth and i would sit in the self-help section

of the bookstore surrounded by people bruised and searching, and I was a little bruised and

definitely a lot curious. And I read all of those books, all the personal growth, all the self-help. And I interviewed a lot of

those authors on this podcast and I even wrote a self-help book. But what I realized is that those

answers I was searching for aren't really answers. And I'm not going to find them in a book or a

guru or a person or relationship. They're in myself.

And there's wisdom and intuition. That's where the answers are. And I just have to let them out,

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