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Philippe Lemoine on the Case for Lockdown Skepticism

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Society & Culture, Politics, News, Science, News Commentary

4.6917 Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Kay speaks to Philippe Lemoine about problematic assumptions embedded in the models used to support COVID lockdown policy. Yes, separating people helps reduce virus transmission and saves lives. But forced isolation also can generate serious (and often life-threatening) risks. Moreover, how much of the beneficial effects attributed to lockdowns are the result of disease-avoidant behaviours that most of us would engage in anyway? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Colette Podcast. My name is Claire Lehman and I am editor and chief of Colette.

0:08.0

Colette is where free thought lives. We are an independent grassroots platform for heterodox ideas and fearless commentary.

0:15.0

Our podcast is a team effort and is jointly hosted by myself, associate editor Toby Young,

0:20.0

and Canadian editor Jonathan Kay.

0:22.0

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0:25.8

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0:35.0

Welcome to the Colette Podcast.

0:36.8

I'm Jonathan Kay speaking to you from Toronto.

0:40.0

The fight against the COVID pandemic has brought good news and bad news in recent weeks.

0:44.8

On one hand, millions of people around the world are now being vaccinated.

0:48.4

On the other hand, more contagious strains of the disease have broken out in Europe and Africa, and some countries, including

0:54.9

Britain, have imposed draconian new lockdown provisions, prohibiting all but the most

0:59.6

essential public activity. But do lockdowns really work? And I realize that even asking that question

1:06.3

will raise the eyebrows of some listeners. In some cases, the anti-lockdown lobby has been associated with activists who downplay or even dismiss the serious

1:16.2

health threat posed by COVID.

1:18.8

But if you look at the data, the question of whether lockdowndowns are worth it is worth asking.

1:24.4

Of course, no one can reasonably question the idea that forcing people apart will help stop

1:29.3

the spread of COVID.

1:30.8

That's basic epidemiology. But there are still at least three main empirical questions

1:35.8

worth asking. First, is it the lockdowns that are forcing people apart or do

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