Hello, how wonderful of you to join me again for Outta Lunch, the place where I champed

to an utterly fascinating individual over some top-class food, and you get to listen

in as if you were not sitting at a table right next to us pretending not to hang on

our every word.

Now often when talking to my guests they reveal things as if they were undergoing some

sort of therapy.

Today the tables have turned rather because my guest is a hugely successful psychotherapist

known for her frankness we get into all sorts of juicy subject matter over a video link

and wonderful food from 45 Germans Street, the restaurant of London's Fortman Mason.

As well as her career in psychotherapy she's a broadcaster and most recently author of

the book You Wish Your Parents and Red.

It's the wonderful Philippa Perry.

I always like a man in makeup.

I do like that because they're improved by it.

I like the makeup by hateful spoobs, hate them.

Hello Philippa Perry.

Hello Jay Reiner.

It is lovely to see you and I have to say you are the first interview I've had on this

Infolunch format who has clearly gone to some trouble with their place setting.

You have a nice wine glass in front of you.

I suddenly worry that we might not be sending you wine.

Don't worry I've got a bucket ready just in case you didn't.

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