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Hello and how delightful of you to join me again.

Welcome to Out to lunch, the podcast for those hungry for great food and scintillating conversation.

Each week I chat to guests over lunch out or as in recent times a takeaway in a video call and you lucky

listener get to listen in on our conversation as if you are here with us.

Food really opens a person up.

It gets them to spill all the best secrets, which is fitting because this week I share some

cracking Indian food with someone who's made his name,

creating suspense and intrigue through the revelation of great secrets in hit dramas like cardiac arrest, line of duty and bodyguard.

It's the writer and TV producer Jed Mercurio.

And I can reveal exclusively, Joe. I'm on the edge of my seat.

I'm moving forward.

Yeah, on. I'm moving forward. Hello Jed McCurio, it's lovely to meet you.

Hello Jay Rayna, it's very nice to meet you too.

Now this is called, well it's out to lunch, we were in for lunch for obvious reasons at this moment,

the lockdown is still in place.

And you sent us only one dietary requirement,

which was he likes spicy food.

That was what we got back.

When you were a young man, when you were in the RF,

you've talked about being a bit of an adrenaline junkie trying to land plains as hard as you

could to pull as many geez as possible. Is spice? Is that the last residual part of the

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