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I myself, I'm going to the beach this weekend,

and it's honestly the first thing I make sure is packed in

my bag. There's probably a lot of people who at this point, the beach out on their lake or, you know,

just summer overall, those have become synonymous with the Phil Steel magazine. That's got to help

your image, right? It sure does, Taylor. And I can't tell you, when people tweet out the pictures of the magazine and all these great places around the country and around the world, for that matter, really makes me smile.

It's always something I definitely look forward to.

And you're here today to talk about North Carolina.

They made waves when they let go of Coach Fedora.

They bring back Mack Brown, who was a colleague of yours at ESPN.

What was your first reaction when you heard North Carolina was hiring Mac?

I thought it was a good move.

You go back to last year, another one of my former colleagues, Herm Edwards, got hired by Arizona State, and his season turned out to be pretty good.

And Coach Brown was sort of itching to get back into the coaching profession. I don't think he's past this prime. I think he's a guy that's going to get stuff done.

And frankly, he steps into

probably a pretty good situation because if you look at Larry Fador's final two years,

if it could go wrong, it went wrong. Like last year with all those suspensions and then get

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