Phil Heath is a seven-time Mr. Olympia, one of the first guests in a long time with a physique to rival my own.

His new documentary produced by Dwayne the Rock Johnson, chanced an unprecedented quest for an eighth title in the most prestigious bodybuilding contest in the world.

If you don't own it, it will show up on that stage.

He's got big arms, big views on health, motivation, and resilience. And now, Phil Heath, goes unsensitive. Do you have to be vain? You just to spend a lot of time adoring your physique. What's with the tiny trunk? I mean, they all seem to be about three sizes too small. This is true. We wear them pretty high up a little bit. You've had a few tensions with Arnold, haven't he? He criticized bodybuilders with a belly. You definitely have to have the biggest calves, the biggest everything. How would you feel about this whole issue of trans athletes? What's your general view of that? They told me that you hired a trainer. I think I'm a challenge. You know I came ready. We'll have a little feel. One, two, three. Feel great to see you. Yes, thanks for having me. You are almost certainly the strongest person I've ever had in here. Awesome. How do you feel about that? I feel really damn good about it, to be quite honest. When you've won Mr. Olympia seven times, same number as Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yes. Does every bar you go into anywhere in a world, does some guy with big muscles come and try and have a whack? If anything, they're trying to ask me what my routine is.

Really? Yeah. But they try and like have a fight with you. No, I initially in my career as an

amateur, you know, I was working at a bar actually. So yeah, had had a few, you know, interactions.

How does that end for the others? Not so good. Not so good. They also got arrested, so I was helping run the bar.

I already knew the cops.

So I was like, yeah, get this guy out of here.

It takes unbelievable iron will self-discipline to get to the stage where he can win Mr. Olympia.

Yes.

When you give it up, how do you maintain that iron will so it doesn't all that work doesn't

just disappear?

Right.

Well, just like anything, right?

You want to make sure that you keep a certain level of personal excellence.

After achieving all those titles, you know, I know how to eat, I know how to train.

The last thing I need

to do is just get lazy. And like Arnold would say, be useful. So I'm going to use those muscles, you know, I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to continually do my cardio. I actually recently lost 40 pounds, so I'm happy about that, you know, and I have- What's your gym routine like now.

Arnold told me a few years ago that when he goes to gym now, he does much smaller weights,

but more repetitions.

Yeah.

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