Hi, welcome to Fever Dreams. My name's Will Summer. I'm a political reporter at The Daily Beast and the author of an upcoming book on QAnon for Harper Collins.

And I'm Aswin-Sub-Tang, but please call me Swin. I'm a senior political reporter at the Daily Beast and co-author of the book Sinking in the Swamp.

All right, here on Fevered Dreams, we're going to take you on plunges into the sometimes hilarious and sometimes scary world of the American right as they continue to influence our politics. Even in the aftermath of the Trump

administration, the energy of these conspiracy theorists, these grifters, and these influencers

is still pushing our mainstream political landscape closer and closer to a breaking point.

Kelly, before we talk about your book launch day, or book launch week,

I should put it, were you following what friend of the show, Mr. My Pillowman, Mike Lindell,

was doing over the weekend? You know, following is always such a difficult proposition.

When it comes to Mike Lindell, you just kind of have to observe from afar, watch the meandering,

a bit like a drunk driver.

But I understand he's made some curious accusations of you, and Swin, I didn't know you were that

powerful legally.

Well, according to him, I am, which is flattering and way more than I deserve, but I don't

think I can go with this one.

Okay, just to catch up our listeners over the weekend at a Texas political rally,

Mike Lindell was up on stage doing his thing.

And I think like you, Kelly Weil, I've seen him do his schick, his routine a number of times.

And at the different cyber symposiums and the different rallies and even the different My Pillow-related commercials,

a lot of it tends to bleed together. Like, it's a stand-up comedy routine, except deeply anti-democratic.

I think that's fair to say, yeah, you know the stump speech at this point for the pillow man.

Okay, so I saw on Twitter recently. I was not watching the rally live, but here is a quote that I saw

that he said while on

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