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Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast

Peter Shamshiri & Beverly Gage

Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast

iHeartPodcasts

News, Politics

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

5-4 podcast co-host Peter Shamshiri previews what to expect from the Supreme Court next year. Yale’s Beverly Gage examines the history of the FBI and how it reflects on Kash Patel’s reign.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.6

Hi, I'm Molly JongFast, and this is Fast Politics, where we discussed the top political headlines with some of today's best minds.

0:13.3

We're on vacation, but that doesn't mean we don't have a great show for you today.

0:17.8

Yale University's Beverly Gage stops by to talk to us about the history of the FBI

0:23.0

and how it reflects on Cash Patel's reign. But first, we have the co-host of the 5-4 podcast, Peter

0:30.3

Shamsiri, here to preview what to expect next from this demented Supreme Court. Welcome to Fastball Thanks, Peter. Thanks for having me.

0:40.3

You are one of the three stars of my favorite podcast, five to four podcast about how great the

0:46.4

Supreme Court is, but only one of you will show up on my podcast, but that's fine. I know.

0:51.8

And all of us can slum it over here. Not everyone can, but how's it going? It seems like those guys are doing great.

0:58.1

Yeah, it's been an eventful year, I guess. I think that anyone who was like particularly delusioned about where the court might be vis-a-vis Trump has had that washed away this year.

1:10.2

They spent the first nine months or so just smacking

1:14.1

down every district court who tried to stand in his way. And now the term is underway. The 2025,

1:21.0

26 term is underway. And it's sort of more of the same. You know, I try not to follow oral arguments

1:27.4

too much. I feel like that's like watching pre of the same. You know, I try not to follow oral arguments too much.

1:28.1

I feel like that's like watching preseason football.

1:31.3

It's like, just wait, you know, just wait to see what they say.

1:34.0

But it's hard to kind of peel my eyes away at the same time.

1:37.6

My general sense is that several of the conservatives are rotting their brains on Twitter or somewhere else.

1:44.7

Like Brett Kavanaugh just seems much more sort of right wing, like red-pilled than he used to be.

1:50.9

Gorsuch sort of the same way, all hopes of moderation out the window.

1:55.0

Yes.

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