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🗓️ 8 August 2025
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Homicides are down 14% from pre-pandemic levels and other major crimes have followed suit. But what can today’s drop teach us about the last great decline, the one that transformed New York in the 1990s? Mike talks with Peter Moskos, former Baltimore cop turned John Jay College professor, about his new book Back from the Brink, an oral history of the NYPD’s crime-fighting turnaround. They dig into the role of CompStat, broken windows, and the delicate balance between aggressive policing and community trust.
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0:00.0 | It's Friday, August 9th, 2025 from Peachfish Productions. It's The Gist. I'm Mike Peska. |
0:10.1 | I don't know if you've seen, but the homicide stats, mostly from select cities, but a lot of them are great. |
0:16.3 | Well, that seems odd to say that homicide is great, but I'll read some. There were 14% fewer homicides in the studies that they've done in the first half of 2025 |
0:25.8 | than there were in the first half of 2019. |
0:29.3 | So this is comparing the current state of crime to where we were pre-pandemic. |
0:33.5 | And it's even better. |
0:34.9 | Some other crimes. |
0:36.2 | Aggravated assault down 5% gun assaults, down 4% sexual assault, which sometimes isn't |
0:42.3 | included in these surveys for a number of reasons, down 28% domestic violence, down |
0:46.4 | eight, robbery, down 30, carjacking down three, although there are some other statistics |
0:52.4 | that show that carjacking actually hasn't |
0:54.8 | gone down. But it's pretty amazing. And so, of course, the question is why. And we're going to |
1:00.0 | get to the whys, not the whys of this last period of years, but the wise of a generation ago, |
1:07.4 | because that is when we can actually understand it. But into the mall, we |
1:11.7 | rush to understand it, and we should as best we can. So I will read from one explanation. |
1:16.8 | This was on NPR. Murders are falling dramatically in many U.S. cities after a surge in |
1:21.8 | 2020 and 2021. Crime analysts say a reinvestment in communities from both the government and private sources |
1:29.5 | after the disruption of the pandemic is a key reason. That makes it seem like community programs, |
1:36.7 | and that report, if you listen to it, had some good seeming programs in Detroit bring down |
1:41.9 | crimes, a reinvestment in communities. I'm not exactly |
1:45.6 | sure what that means. Here's what, as best we know, and there are many, many factors, but here's |
1:52.2 | why crime spiked and is coming down. During the pandemic, people didn't have jobs. And it wasn't |
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