Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran selling vintage compressors on eBay for five times what you purchased them for in 1989, or else a scrappy upstart, buying a hard drive of jailbroken plug-ins for 20 bucks on the dark web, this is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off

actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the second Friday of April 2025, and I thank you for joining us.

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