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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Peter Hamby: Swalwell’s Fall, POTUS v. Pontifex, & The VP’s Podcast Mouth

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

John welcomes his partner and Puck Superfriend Peter Hamby to discuss former California congressman and gubernatorial candidate Eric Swalwell’s ignominious implosion and its implications for the race to succeed Gavin Newsom. Hamby also weighs in on Donald Trump and J.D. Vance’s ongoing battle with Pope Leo XIV and whether it might cause lasting damage to MAGA with Catholic voters—and Hamby’s highlights (Geese!) from his latest sojourn to Coachella. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:09.1

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0:27.2

Aloha Namaste and welcome to Empartagu-Gu-Changu, a puck and Odyssey joint, and happy Friday.

0:34.8

If you're wondering what makes it so goddamn happy, well, I have three words for you, Peter, Lawrence, Hamby.

0:39.6

That's right, sports fans, in the wake of the not completely out of nowhere, but still sudden and staggeringly rapid fire implosion of Eric Swalwell's campaign for the California

0:44.1

governorship, a campaign in which some polls had him as the Democratic frontrunner, if just barely,

0:49.9

followed by Swalwell's unceremonies exit from the House of Representatives and his entry into a legal,

0:55.4

professional, and personal hellscape for which he has only himself to blame.

0:59.4

It was abundantly clear that the guest we absolutely needed for the show today was Hamby.

1:05.3

My partner at Puck, musical running buddy, and one of the most crucial political lifelines I maintained to the state where I was born.

1:12.0

And so we fired up the puck super friend bat signal and Peter, as always, answered the call,

1:18.1

going deep on Swalwell's standing in the race, which was shakier that it looked,

1:22.8

his tenuous to non-existent case for being governor, his tendencies towards wanton starfuckery,

1:29.0

the evidently darker characterological flaws that brought his career crashing down in a heap,

1:34.3

the impact of his departure from the race, which of the remaining candidates has most to gain

1:39.0

from it, and which rival campaign might have aided and abetted in the disclosure of the news that ruined him.

1:45.4

Then, putting not one but two cherries on top of this particular political Sunday,

1:49.9

Peter also weighs in on the POTUS versus Pontifex cage match that has Catholics around the

1:55.5

country and the world at once wide-eyed and aghast, and on what Peter saw.

2:01.4

And more to the point, what Peter heard last weekend at Coachella that pricked up his ears

2:06.2

and brightened his life while leaving yours truly green with envy.

2:10.8

All of that on this all new episode of Impolitic with John Heilman.

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