You're listening to the CyberWire established security giants to up-and-coming disruptors,

getting the inside track on what makes a

cybersecurity company tick. I'm your host Mark Rizadlov, the CEO Devo, and

today my guest is Peter Bauer, a well-known entrepreneur in the community and co-founder and CEO of Mindcast.

Peter, welcome to the show.

Thanks, Mark.

Thanks for having me along today.

So Peter, you're the CEO of Mindcast, which is an amazing company that's gone through a long, you've been doing it for 20 years,

building out the company, getting it to IPO, and going through private equity.

And today, I'm very excited about this conversation

because you're a fascinating person and I knew that but as we were preparing for this you

only got more interesting so I'm gonna go back first to where your roots are,

and how you grew up.

And then we're going to take it all the way through your career

and some lessons that building out a company like this

and the things you did before you got to Mindcast can teach the rest of us.

So looking forward to this and I'm going to start off with where you from? Where did you grow up?

Well you make an assumption that I grew up, but let's stick with that one for now.

Yeah.

Look, I am originally South African, I think as you know, and I was born in a in a little village in the

Eastern Cape of South Africa and at the time the population was about 2,000 people and

my dad was the high school teacher and I was born there and then we moved to

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