None of us lives easily with cognitive dissonance.

That is, if we feel like we're at odds with who we fundamentally think we are,

if we hold views or we're having actions, they're at odds with what we think we are,

we can't live easily with that.

And something eventually has to give. Welcome to the good faith podcast. I'm your host, Curtis Chang. And on this podcast, I talk with my friends who love Jesus, and we together

try to make sense of this world. And my guest for this episode is a friend who has been

helping many people over many years make sense of the world. He's Pete Wainer. He's a writer

for the Atlantic, for the New York Times, also a senior

fellow in residence with the Trinity Forum. So welcome. Thanks for coming. It's great to be with

you, Curtis. I admire you and your ministry and all you've done in your life. And so it's great

to have a conversation with you. Well, Pete, I wanted to have you come on to discuss a topic that I think is central to good faith.

And the topic is the experience of being in exile.

And so an exile is someone who has lost their home in some way and are in a state of waiting. And the reason why I

believe this topic is so central to good faith, we get a lot of emails from our audience basically

conveying some sense of homelessness. A lot of it is political homelessness. We have, I think,

a disproportionate number of conservatives who feel like they don't have a political home anymore, but also some from the left.

Some cultural homelessness feeling like they're looking out on the landscape of how Christians are engaged and viewed in the culture, and they feel like I don't have a home there in that

landscape. Some are experiencing spiritual homelessness. They are questioning spiritual

attachments or church attachments. And the vision I have of good faith is that our listeners

are sort of throughout the week like journeying and wandering or trekking through the wilderness of various sorts, political, culture, or spiritual.

And I had this vision of the Good Faith podcast as like a weekly campfire where those trek of the wilderness could at least find each other, gather around this campfire, and listen to friends.

Listen to friends talk about making sense of this world

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