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Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Saker.

Pervez Musharraf, the former Pakistani army chief who masterminded a coup in 1999 and ruled the country for nine years, has died in exile in Dubai after a long illness.

Musharraf was a hugely controversial figure in Pakistan.

He seized power after falling out with then Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

He portrayed himself as a security hawk who could offer Pakistan stability and competence.

He positioned himself as a strong ally of the United States after the 9-11 terror attacks and George W. Bush's

declaration of a global war on terror. But his domestic popularity sank as he showed increasing

disregard for judicial independence and human rights. He resigned and left Pakistan as efforts

to impeach him, gathered pace.

Amongst many other allegations, his critics accused him of involvement in the assassination of

Benazir Bhutto in 2007, an accusation he adamantly denied. When I interviewed him back in 2014,

he'd returned to Pakistan in an attempt to revive his political career after years of exile in London. He had hoped to ride a wave of popular support back

into power. Instead, he found himself facing separate charges of treason and murder. How did Pakistan's former strongman get things so wrong?

And what did his rise and fall tell us about the realities of power in Pakistan?

This is our encounter from 2014.

Pervez Musharraf in Karachi, welcome to Hard Talk.

Thank you.

Last time we spoke, you were still in exile, and you told me that you wanted to go home because you believed you had a very important contribution still to make to Pakistani politics.

Well, here you sit today facing charges of high treason and murder. You're ready to

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