Kira Rudik: Can Ukraine win this war?
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BBC
4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 9 February 2023
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Stephen Sackur speaks to Kira Rudik, a Ukrainian MP and leader of the opposition party Golos. As the first anniversary of Putin’s invasion looms, does Ukraine have the external support and the internal cohesion it needs to win this war?
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. |
| 0:05.0 | The looming one-year anniversary of Russia's all-out invasion of Ukraine will have a deep symbolic resonance in both Kiev and Moscow. |
| 0:14.2 | It was not an anniversary that Vladimir Putin expected to mark with his army still engaged in a costly war. |
| 0:21.9 | The Ukrainian military resisted with skill and determination. |
| 0:25.2 | Last autumn, it retook swathes of territory occupied by the Russian invaders, |
| 0:30.0 | and Western allies led by the US have supplied Kiev with powerful new weapons. |
| 0:35.7 | But Putin's determination to win this war, whatever the cost, remains undimmed. |
| 0:42.4 | A second wave of mobilization is underway in Russia. |
| 0:45.8 | Hundreds of thousands of Russian troops are heading to the front for a seemingly imminent new offensive. |
| 0:52.4 | Ukraine's ability to sustain an all-out war effort is about to be tested in new |
| 0:57.6 | ways. Well, my guest is Ukrainian MP and leader of the Hollis opposition party, Kira Rudik. |
| 1:04.7 | Is Ukraine adequately prepared for year two of the war? Well, Kira Rudik joins me now from Kiev. Welcome to Hard Talk. |
| 1:15.3 | Hello, thank you so much for having me, Stephen. It's a pleasure to have you on the show. I'd like you to |
| 1:20.1 | reflect on President Zelensky's message here in Europe. Do you think the focus from the Ukrainian government is more on the gratitude |
| 1:30.0 | for what European partners have already delivered or more on the urgency to give more now? |
| 1:39.8 | I think it is 50-50. You have to create alliances. You have to keep it and you keep the alliances with the gratitude. |
| 1:49.3 | But also we want the world to keep supporting us. You know, the war did not start a year ago. It started in 2014. |
| 2:00.1 | And what was the most painful, that after a year, it became a new |
| 2:04.9 | normal. And we had to still fight our fights. So right now, we don't want to repeat this story. We want to |
| 2:13.5 | keep the war on the agenda and get enough of the weapons so we can actually win the war. |
| 2:20.5 | And our plan is to get the most of what we can, fight him back, win, and then defend our borders. |
| 2:30.8 | So is there a degree of fear in Kiev right now, fear of Ukraine fatigue setting in |
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