I will come back to the personality hacker podcast. My name is Joel Mark Whit and I'm

Antonio Dodge. So I think this podcast is going to trigger you. In fact, that's kind of

what we're attempting to do here, but not in a bad way, not in a bad way. In some ways

I would say in Tonya that our career is you and me running around microphones and cameras,

trying to trigger people and then when they get triggered about some issue that surfaces

for them, we help them deal with that using the lens of personality type. We basically

help them address the triggers that come up for them on how their mind is wired. That's

basically what we do. I mean, if you really boil it down, that's one way you could describe

our career here, personality hacker. Well, maybe we should define what the word trigger

means in this context. Yeah. Because I think as much as this word has become a staple in

our language and our collective unconscious, I don't I don't think that we're all using

the same definition of trigger. But I do think that we all believe we know what a trigger

is. And I think we all when we make accusations or make statements that you triggered me,

I think we have collectively gotten to a place where we all agree that that's a bad thing.

I agree with you. I remember growing up in the 1980s as a kid and seeing movies and TV

shows that would portray Vietnam veterans that they were home from the war and something

would happen. They'd be the July 4th celebration. Fireworks would go off and they would like

dive under a picnic table and freak out or pull a gun on somebody that they felt was

threatening. And you see a lot of these tropes in like 90s, 80s and 90s movies growing

up or TV shows. And that's how I always understood what a trigger was. It was always like a like

after a war after some traumatic event after like your life was threatened. Something happened

to remind you of the life threatening situation you had been in at one time. And you respond,

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