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Welcome to Office Hours.

I'm David Meltzer, and it's time for the executive spotlight.

And do I have a special guest for our spotlight today?

The universe has brought him to the studio here at the win. We have our friend Mark

Kerr. Welcome to office hours. Yeah I appreciate that. Thank you for having me

David. You know it's amazing we're just talking about no coincidences and I talk about the

coinciding of intention and intention well your start was in wrestling and

and understanding attention and intention is a dichotomy between two things.

Strength and force. And as a wrestler, we're taught and conditioned about force.

But the greatest martial mixed artists,

UFC fighters and wrestlers, who I'm blessed to be around the greatest in the world,

they understand the difference between strength and force.

So I wanted to start out as an executive to help us understand that lesson, that paradigm that you've learned in your career from wrestling into being featured in documentaries and movies being made about you and

championships. How and what is the relationship between strength and force?

Oh that's a great question.

You know, strength for me was always internal, right?

That was the whole paradigm that I had in myself, like,

did I have the strength to persevere,

did I have the strength to endure what I was going through,

and then the force or will to carry it out. You know, that was the big, big shift in

in in understanding and part of part of my growth as a as a wrestler. I always

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