Hello my friends and welcome back to the beat we have Angela Ferraro Fanning on the show a Cornell University certified permaculturist in homestead or in Central New Jersey who has a book called the Sustainable Homestead so we have that in common Angela

I have a book called Epic homesteading so it's gonna be a homesteading meeting of the minds this week

Thanks for coming on the show. Yeah thank you for having me So it's going to be a homesteading meeting of the minds this week.

Thanks for coming on the show.

Yeah, thank you for having me.

It's my pleasure.

So talk to me about the, I guess your background first.

I always like to kind of start there.

It's interesting, Cornell University certified permacultur, so I don't think we've had someone

with that credential on before. So what exactly does that mean?

So background-wise, I used to be really into ornamental gardening until I had this bad experience with a

harvest and we can talk about that later. But for me it became really important to know where my food came from and so I transitioned from

ornamental into edibles and it kind of snowballed from there that was my gateway drug, right?

I brought in ducks and then I was like what else can I do when I started keeping bees and it was just this snowball effect and for me I've always been very eco-friendly before I got into this whole gig I was a graphic and website designer I had my own design business and it was sort of or it was all around

eco-friendly design. So the permaculture piece I didn't know that that was a thing. I called it

holistic homesteading and I was trying to do everything naturally in the way that Mother Nature did it and then I found out that that's actually an entire movement that's been around for a very long time.

All of a sudden when I realized this term,

permaculture, this gateway opened

with all of these books and resources and professionals.

And I decided to become certified in it and so I went to Cornell online it's through there and I got certified to make sure that I wasn't full of shit with what I was doing and here I am.

So it's interesting you say you didn't call it per se. I was doing and here I am.

So it's interesting you say you didn't call it permaculture in the beginning because I would say

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