A note to our listeners, this episode contains mention of suicide.

So something kind of cool happened the other day, and it led to something else cool, and it brought us to this episode of the show.

I was on LinkedIn, the career website, which I know, right?

I try to limit my exposure to that place because it makes you compare yourself

to other people. Like, look at all the achievements and success. All these people are having who I

know or who I barely know or who I don't think I even know at all. Why aren't I having all

the accomplishments? Am I a loser?

It can be a bad road to walk down, you know, LinkedIn. Let's do an episode about that some time.

The overwhelming dread and depression that comes from spending time on social media sites.

And let's spend a big chunk of that episode talking about LinkedIn in

particular. That's later put a pin in that one. But this particular visit to LinkedIn, it was quite

nice. I was on LinkedIn. I checked my notifications. And there was an item that tagged me by name.

It mentioned this show, actually. Yeah, I better go ahead and say the line now.

It's Depression Mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

Anyway, LinkedIn, an organization called Million Podcasts put together a list of their top 80 depression podcasts.

My first thought, there are 80 depression podcasts, at least?

Second thought, what an honor for Depression Mode to be ranked number four on that list.

Hooray.

Third thought, who else is on this list?

And I saw a familiar name, Dr. Margaret Rutherford, psychologist and host of the Self-Work

Podcast, where I remembered being a guest a few years ago when my book, The Hilarious World of Depression,

came out. Good interview. I remember the show and her very fondly. So I connected with her

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