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The word disability is the word given to us used in society, right?

Like something's missing or something's wrong.

And I don't think of it as that.

I think of it as an ability.

My abilities are different than yours. This is Karima Batts, founder of Adaptive Climbing Group, a series of programs which provide people with disabilities the opportunity to

in exclusively participate in the sport of climbing.

Krima didn't set out to build a non-profit nor could she have predicted its growth or appeal.

But Kreme knows as well as anyone that, for better or worse, life lacks predictability.

Crema grew up in New York City, a place that, if you're not from there, may come across as having less access to the outdoors than a city like Salt Lake.

But Cream is experienced as otherwise.

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