If you're going to give yourself to the person of Jesus who is grace, and he is fully grace and truth, and you're going to tell the truth, that is not conducive to making everybody happy all the time.

And so at 47 years old, I wake up today, and I have to own the fact that on this very day, I'm not going to make everybody happy.

Guys, I'm excited that again, you're meeting one of my people that I've never gotten to spend time with.

And Judah Smith, we have a million mutual friends, and you've been killing it on several

places around the U.S. and with your churches. Church Home is his home church that he founded.

He and Chelsea, right? And that, I mean, how many, how many campuses are there now?

Well, there was a lot more campuses.

We, at one point, we had seven or eight or something like that, but we really encourage people

to practice their faith in their home, which, of course, everyone does, you know, whether

aware of it or not.

But, yeah, so, I mean, if you count people's homes and parks and

cafes and things, who knows, who knows, you know, I'm not even sure, but. Yeah. I mean,

that's so fun. That's a way to multiply. I'm such a believer in that. We all got to taste it in COVID,

right? That was the way we did it. Whether we liked it or not.

Right. But what I like, Judah, about your ministry is you really have been unashamed and

unafraid to minister to some dark places. I mean, I got to visit your church in the middle of

L.A. And I got to see, you know, some of the people that I love and know that live there that

weren't necessarily walking with God stumble into your church. And I think that's, I don't know,

you were just meeting each other, but I do think that that's a lot of your heart is to go for

those that don't know God. So why don't you share with us your heart? What has been your

goal in the ministry and work that you've gotten to be a part of? I mean, ultimately, I'm a

seven-generation preacher, and my dad actually and mom started the church in 1992 at a courtyard

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