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This is pretty much pop and culture podcast, a bad camp for bad people.

Today we're discussing Lord of the Flies, the William Golding novel published in 1952 in light of the new BBC version, written by Jack Thorne. I'm Mark Linton Meyer,

and sucks to your ass, Maher. Wow. Yeah. I'm Al Baker, happier than usual to be a vegetarian.

You're a vegetarian. You're a vegetarian. Or a learning. I'm Sarah Lindbreck, and we all know who the real Lord of the Flies is.

The YKK Company, the world's largest and dominant zipper manufacturer, produced in Japan.

They produce 40 to 50% of the global zipper supply. Odds are pretty good. You're wearing one of their flies now. Jokes on you, Sarah, because I haven't got out of my pajamas today. And I have both sweatpants. This is Lawrence Ware, the last group project that I was in charge of, went so badly it ended up like Lord of the Flies. Well, this was a nice surprise that I didn't know that was coming that jumped up on Netflix and we were already talking about a Survivor episode, which we're still going to do, but this is not that. I mean, we'll discuss it at the end. And I was thinking, you know, this might be a general sort of Desert Island novels, films, whatever. But there's actually quite a lot to talk about

just with Lord of the Flies. I mean, it is like one of the philosophy 101 novels that we are

probably all forced to read in school. And I enjoyed this new version. There are two previous

film versions that I watched parts of. And just the ability to direct kids seems to have advanced.

So I'm just for that reason, I like this new version quite a bit better.

Should we go around the horn?

Traditionally, I go first in these roundtables, but I don't have very strong feelings about

this show.

The thing is, Lord of the Flies is such a great story.

And I think the best

thing that you can say for this TV show is that it really made me feel like I was watching a very

faithful adaptation of the book. I remember reading it for the first time when, yeah, I was made

to read it in school, but because I was a precocious little shit. I read it a few years before

I was forced to read it at school. And I remember being

like impressed and deeply disturbed as a like 12 year old, especially the final scene that

always really stuck with me when the adult turns up and everybody is faced with the

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