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This is pretty much pop, a culture podcast presented,

hopefully here, in reverse chronology. Today we're discussing the films of Christopher Nolan,

the light of his latest up-and-himer. I'm Mark Linsomire,

realizing that my greatest triumph has been my greatest mistake.

I'm Albeca, frequently self-indulgent, but usually worth it.

My name is Sarah Lynn Brooke, and I've had so little sleep lately, I'm not sure what is a dream

and what is reality. My name is Lawrence Weir, and I just want to watch the world burn.

Hey folks, it's the beginning of our, did you say season four? Yes, season four. So to start it

with a bang, welcome. Yeah, we're trying to do video here. So if you're just listening to this,

there should be a link from the post associated with this appprettymuchpop.com

that will take you to the video link and you can see our glorious faces as we contemplate this

filmmaker who's who's a very visual person. Absolutely. Sure, sure he is.

Al, as a person in the UK who does not like to go out to films, did you actually get to see

Oppenheimer now that we gave you an extra week to do it? Or did you get to see Oppenheimer now that

you gave me an extra week's to it? I'm really glad I did. I think it's probably my favorite film

of his maybe second, but it's a really, really good one. Really? And I think it's a really

interesting Christopher Nolan film as well. It's got some, it leans heavily into some of the things

that he does very well and backs dramatically away from some of the things that he does very well,

but it's still kind of annoying sometimes. Do we have a thesis, a hypothesis that we want to go

with today other than some people think that Christopher Nolan is just visual and kind of gimmicky

in his plots and so overrated, but most people seem to feel like he is a visionary. Certainly,

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